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		<title>By: Luxy</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24549</link>
		<dc:creator>Luxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same problem as you and if the new meds don&#039;t work for you, I&#039;d ask to see if Lithium would be right for you.

After trying several meds and med combos, it was a godsend.  It&#039;s a natural drug (on the table of elements even!), has a low occurrence of side effects and it worked on the depression and anxiety of mine.  I don&#039;t know why they don&#039;t prescribe it that often except for the fact that its so cheap.  You do have to get bloodwork drawn every so often, but I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve had that before with some of the others.

Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem as you and if the new meds don&#8217;t work for you, I&#8217;d ask to see if Lithium would be right for you.</p>
<p>After trying several meds and med combos, it was a godsend.  It&#8217;s a natural drug (on the table of elements even!), has a low occurrence of side effects and it worked on the depression and anxiety of mine.  I don&#8217;t know why they don&#8217;t prescribe it that often except for the fact that its so cheap.  You do have to get bloodwork drawn every so often, but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve had that before with some of the others.</p>
<p>Good Luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24530</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My body doesn&#039;t get it right either. I hope new meds work well for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My body doesn&#8217;t get it right either. I hope new meds work well for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24529</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long time reader, first time commenter.

I was recently put on Welbutrin (my first crack at this whole antidepressant thing) and while I thought I was okay on the low dosage my boyfriend thought I was moodier.  When I moved up to the &quot;therapeutic&quot; dosage, I woke up crying every day, and couldn&#039;t even THINK about going to work with out a panic attack.  This lasted for about 3 weeks before I tossed it.  Now I&#039;m off meds again, and I&#039;m not trying them again until after my university exam period.  Lord knows this time of year is hard enough without scary side effects. 

Anyway, enough about me.   I&#039;m so sorry all of this is happening to you AAG, and I hope things work out for you!  
*hugs*
Steph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time reader, first time commenter.</p>
<p>I was recently put on Welbutrin (my first crack at this whole antidepressant thing) and while I thought I was okay on the low dosage my boyfriend thought I was moodier.  When I moved up to the &#8220;therapeutic&#8221; dosage, I woke up crying every day, and couldn&#8217;t even THINK about going to work with out a panic attack.  This lasted for about 3 weeks before I tossed it.  Now I&#8217;m off meds again, and I&#8217;m not trying them again until after my university exam period.  Lord knows this time of year is hard enough without scary side effects. </p>
<p>Anyway, enough about me.   I&#8217;m so sorry all of this is happening to you AAG, and I hope things work out for you!<br />
*hugs*<br />
Steph</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
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		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh hey. That&#039;s cool.

I like my idea better tho. :)

Lurves you back, K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh hey. That&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>I like my idea better tho. :)</p>
<p>Lurves you back, K.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24523</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your art idea reminded me of this one:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/228m-artists-sweet-pill-to-swallow/2007/06/22/1182019365873.html

Love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your art idea reminded me of this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/228m-artists-sweet-pill-to-swallow/2007/06/22/1182019365873.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/228m-artists-sweet-pill-to-swallow/2007/06/22/1182019365873.html</a></p>
<p>Love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24522</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told waaay back in the day that if you don&#039;t respond to the first one or two anti-depressants, it gets harder to find one that works.  As the new ones came out, I got to try them out (and all the lovely side effects).
That said, they only thing (and trust me, I understand what you mean by the empty bottles, been there!) that helped me was Desyrel, because at least I knew I would get a good nights sleep!

Hang in there, I&#039;ve been off meds for over 18 yrs. now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told waaay back in the day that if you don&#8217;t respond to the first one or two anti-depressants, it gets harder to find one that works.  As the new ones came out, I got to try them out (and all the lovely side effects).<br />
That said, they only thing (and trust me, I understand what you mean by the empty bottles, been there!) that helped me was Desyrel, because at least I knew I would get a good nights sleep!</p>
<p>Hang in there, I&#8217;ve been off meds for over 18 yrs. now!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; even when propped up by multiple powerful drugs, my body just can’t get it right

Back in the day, a sick person went to the local medicine man and was treated with leeches and prayer (dance, song, chant, whatever...). If the patient didn&#039;t respond, who&#039;s fault was that?

We&#039;ve made progress since then, but more in some areas than others.
For appendicitis, we have appendectomies.
For infection, we have antibiotics.
For depression...well, there&#039;s psychotherapy (prayer, song, chant, whatever...) and there&#039;s anti-depressants. Unless you&#039;d prefer the leeches. 

Current evidence is that leeches are about as good as anti-depressants, but have fewer side effects.

Placebos Are Getting More Effective 
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/07/1526234

Antidepressants Work No Better Than a Placebo
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/26/107234

And if you don&#039;t respond to any of this, who&#039;s fault is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; even when propped up by multiple powerful drugs, my body just can’t get it right</p>
<p>Back in the day, a sick person went to the local medicine man and was treated with leeches and prayer (dance, song, chant, whatever&#8230;). If the patient didn&#8217;t respond, who&#8217;s fault was that?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve made progress since then, but more in some areas than others.<br />
For appendicitis, we have appendectomies.<br />
For infection, we have antibiotics.<br />
For depression&#8230;well, there&#8217;s psychotherapy (prayer, song, chant, whatever&#8230;) and there&#8217;s anti-depressants. Unless you&#8217;d prefer the leeches. </p>
<p>Current evidence is that leeches are about as good as anti-depressants, but have fewer side effects.</p>
<p>Placebos Are Getting More Effective<br />
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/07/1526234" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/07/1526234</a></p>
<p>Antidepressants Work No Better Than a Placebo<br />
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/26/107234" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/26/107234</a></p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t respond to any of this, who&#8217;s fault is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Randi</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24520</link>
		<dc:creator>Randi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry that you&#039;ve had to deal with so many different medications. I wish wellbutrin worked for you! Were you given the suspended release (SR) wellbutrin? I found that I couldn&#039;t tolerate the suspended release - my doctor said that any SR medication is designed to break down slowly in the stomach, but that some people have stomach acid which breaks down the medication too quickly (or too slowly), which is why it reacts strangely. Maybe that medication, or one of the others, would have worked better if it wasn&#039;t an SR? I&#039;m now on one wellbutrin pill per day (NOT SR), and it works beautifully. Not sure if you were on SR or not, but maybe you should check into it - it could just be that you were on SR (doctors LOVE to put people on SR&#039;s because it&#039;s just one pill a day), and your stomach acid broke down the medication too quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry that you&#8217;ve had to deal with so many different medications. I wish wellbutrin worked for you! Were you given the suspended release (SR) wellbutrin? I found that I couldn&#8217;t tolerate the suspended release &#8211; my doctor said that any SR medication is designed to break down slowly in the stomach, but that some people have stomach acid which breaks down the medication too quickly (or too slowly), which is why it reacts strangely. Maybe that medication, or one of the others, would have worked better if it wasn&#8217;t an SR? I&#8217;m now on one wellbutrin pill per day (NOT SR), and it works beautifully. Not sure if you were on SR or not, but maybe you should check into it &#8211; it could just be that you were on SR (doctors LOVE to put people on SR&#8217;s because it&#8217;s just one pill a day), and your stomach acid broke down the medication too quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Greyor</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24519</link>
		<dc:creator>Greyor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At different times in my (admittedly short) life, I took three of the different meds you&#039;ve listed above, and I to this day don&#039;t know how much they actually helped. One day I decided to stop taking them altogether (I was on a mix at the time), and a month later, my mom asked if I were still taking them, and I said no. I then asked her if she&#039;d noticed any change in my moods, and she said no. Case closed. I have my ups and downs like everyone else, so things aren&#039;t perfect, but I&#039;ve avoided them ever since.

I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s been a rough road for you with the meds. Basically, I&#039;m saying I know how it is, I&#039;ve been there. *hugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At different times in my (admittedly short) life, I took three of the different meds you&#8217;ve listed above, and I to this day don&#8217;t know how much they actually helped. One day I decided to stop taking them altogether (I was on a mix at the time), and a month later, my mom asked if I were still taking them, and I said no. I then asked her if she&#8217;d noticed any change in my moods, and she said no. Case closed. I have my ups and downs like everyone else, so things aren&#8217;t perfect, but I&#8217;ve avoided them ever since.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry it&#8217;s been a rough road for you with the meds. Basically, I&#8217;m saying I know how it is, I&#8217;ve been there. *hugs*</p>
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		<title>By: Omnipotent Poobah</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2010/04/15/installation/comment-page-1/#comment-24518</link>
		<dc:creator>Omnipotent Poobah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on a cocktail of Cymbalta, Lamotrigene, and Imipramine. I started with the Imi and it worked pretty well for a couple of years (it was really cheap too) and then began to lose effect (though not all of it). We added the Lamo to supplement the failing Imi, and then bolstered the other two with Cymbalta, which helped a little when the other two began losing effectiveness.

Luckily I&#039;ve never had a reaction to these or any other meds except Paxil, which gave me a mild case of hives. In the last six months or so I&#039;ve begun to notice some slight weakening of my condition, so the Doc and I are waiting for spring when the sun is finally out to try some other things.

I do not look forward to that at all. Especially the part last time when I was driving across a high-rise bridge and my inner ear started screaming that I was apparently laying in my right side. You know, I never noticed how bridge railings at the edge of a 150 ft. drop look REALLY, REALLY big when you feel like you&#039;e upside down and heading toward them at 70 mph.

In any case, be well my friend. It could always be worse...my Mom got electro-shock for schizophrenia, my Gandmother sat sans medication, but with the occasional human electroshock, in a WV state mental hospital most of her adult life, and my bi-polar sister sits at home drugged into such submission that she can no longer carry on a converstation longer than 2 minutes, during which you can time (using the big hands) how long it takes her to repond.

Feel better now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on a cocktail of Cymbalta, Lamotrigene, and Imipramine. I started with the Imi and it worked pretty well for a couple of years (it was really cheap too) and then began to lose effect (though not all of it). We added the Lamo to supplement the failing Imi, and then bolstered the other two with Cymbalta, which helped a little when the other two began losing effectiveness.</p>
<p>Luckily I&#8217;ve never had a reaction to these or any other meds except Paxil, which gave me a mild case of hives. In the last six months or so I&#8217;ve begun to notice some slight weakening of my condition, so the Doc and I are waiting for spring when the sun is finally out to try some other things.</p>
<p>I do not look forward to that at all. Especially the part last time when I was driving across a high-rise bridge and my inner ear started screaming that I was apparently laying in my right side. You know, I never noticed how bridge railings at the edge of a 150 ft. drop look REALLY, REALLY big when you feel like you&#8217;e upside down and heading toward them at 70 mph.</p>
<p>In any case, be well my friend. It could always be worse&#8230;my Mom got electro-shock for schizophrenia, my Gandmother sat sans medication, but with the occasional human electroshock, in a WV state mental hospital most of her adult life, and my bi-polar sister sits at home drugged into such submission that she can no longer carry on a converstation longer than 2 minutes, during which you can time (using the big hands) how long it takes her to repond.</p>
<p>Feel better now?</p>
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