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		<title>By: MagiK</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18448</link>
		<dc:creator>MagiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;undeservedly privileged beige people&quot;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;undeservedly privileged beige people&#8221;???</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18431</link>
		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly the reason that I hesitate to use the term African-American or Asian-American or anything like that. It makes huge assumptions which may be way off base not to mention offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly the reason that I hesitate to use the term African-American or Asian-American or anything like that. It makes huge assumptions which may be way off base not to mention offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: MandyMuse</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18429</link>
		<dc:creator>MandyMuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for being willing to share your thoughts, even when you anticipate not being agreed with :)

A couple of points - 

Many black Americans are not from Africa, nor do they have any African heritage at all. They may be from Haiti, Guyana, Jamaica, South America, etc - and while there probably is some African in the blood of most black people, it&#039;s a little like thinking of all whites as &quot;European-American&quot; and saying that we should all be grateful we&#039;re not still living in Sweden and paying high taxes.

See how silly it sounds turned around? that&#039;s why the argument about &quot;they should be grateful to be in America&quot; doesn&#039;t wash for a broad class of people defined by race as you do - to assume that all black Americans share a heritage from a single region, and that living in that region would be horrible, is as silly as thinking all whites are from, say, Italy, and we&#039;re lucky to have escaped government corruption and trains not running on time. We don&#039;t know where everyone&#039;s from, and I would wager that the vast majority of Americans have *no idea* what living in the vast majority of Africa is like, because war and famine are all that make the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for being willing to share your thoughts, even when you anticipate not being agreed with :)</p>
<p>A couple of points &#8211; </p>
<p>Many black Americans are not from Africa, nor do they have any African heritage at all. They may be from Haiti, Guyana, Jamaica, South America, etc &#8211; and while there probably is some African in the blood of most black people, it&#8217;s a little like thinking of all whites as &#8220;European-American&#8221; and saying that we should all be grateful we&#8217;re not still living in Sweden and paying high taxes.</p>
<p>See how silly it sounds turned around? that&#8217;s why the argument about &#8220;they should be grateful to be in America&#8221; doesn&#8217;t wash for a broad class of people defined by race as you do &#8211; to assume that all black Americans share a heritage from a single region, and that living in that region would be horrible, is as silly as thinking all whites are from, say, Italy, and we&#8217;re lucky to have escaped government corruption and trains not running on time. We don&#8217;t know where everyone&#8217;s from, and I would wager that the vast majority of Americans have *no idea* what living in the vast majority of Africa is like, because war and famine are all that make the news.</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18425</link>
		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to Google Reader now. Thanks so much, Jeannette!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to Google Reader now. Thanks so much, Jeannette!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannette</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18424</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay here are some links.. 

For different views on race in pop culture you can check out Racalicious:
http://www.racialicious.com/

For some a few different veiws on Africa America in general:
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/
http://blacksnob.com/  (I loooooooooooooove the Black Snob!!)

For deconstructing what it means to be white in America:
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/
http://everydaywhiteness.wordpress.com/


hope these inspire ;)

Peace and Blessings
J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay here are some links.. </p>
<p>For different views on race in pop culture you can check out Racalicious:<br />
<a href="http://www.racialicious.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.racialicious.com/</a></p>
<p>For some a few different veiws on Africa America in general:<br />
<a href="http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://blacksnob.com/" rel="nofollow">http://blacksnob.com/</a>  (I loooooooooooooove the Black Snob!!)</p>
<p>For deconstructing what it means to be white in America:<br />
<a href="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://everydaywhiteness.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://everydaywhiteness.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>hope these inspire ;)</p>
<p>Peace and Blessings<br />
J</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18423</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On one hand, I think it is important for a person to know and recognize what it is like to live oblivious of racism (or class difference, etc). But after a certain age, I think it is highly problematic to ignore race based inequality.

I don&#039;t think language is nearly as important as having diverse friends (no tokenism!). In my experience people who are only emotionally close with their own race, socioeconomic class, etc. etc. tend to be the ones most prone to generalizing the Other. Those who have grown up in diversity and maintain strong emotional bonds/have a genuine mutual respect w/a diverse group of ppl tend to not rely as heavily upon identity politics to frame their perceptions and interactions with others. If you live somewhere culturally homogenous, exposure to different groups through travel, community programs, etc. is absolutely critical imo.

It doesn&#039;t matter what words you use if you lack the ability to see another person as a person. If you don&#039;t respect a different culture, set of values, etc., if you lack the ability to see the world from someone else&#039;s perspective either through lack of education or personal resistance, avoiding racial terms isn&#039;t going to make you less racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand, I think it is important for a person to know and recognize what it is like to live oblivious of racism (or class difference, etc). But after a certain age, I think it is highly problematic to ignore race based inequality.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think language is nearly as important as having diverse friends (no tokenism!). In my experience people who are only emotionally close with their own race, socioeconomic class, etc. etc. tend to be the ones most prone to generalizing the Other. Those who have grown up in diversity and maintain strong emotional bonds/have a genuine mutual respect w/a diverse group of ppl tend to not rely as heavily upon identity politics to frame their perceptions and interactions with others. If you live somewhere culturally homogenous, exposure to different groups through travel, community programs, etc. is absolutely critical imo.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what words you use if you lack the ability to see another person as a person. If you don&#8217;t respect a different culture, set of values, etc., if you lack the ability to see the world from someone else&#8217;s perspective either through lack of education or personal resistance, avoiding racial terms isn&#8217;t going to make you less racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Bree</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18411</link>
		<dc:creator>Bree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having never been referred to as &#039;the black chick&#039; I probably don&#039;t have the right to speak, but... regardless, I do have an opinion.

Your assumption that someone (me for example) referring to you as such is a barrier, a creation of a divide that shall not be crossable isn&#039;t totally on the money, at least when it comes to me.  Does it occur to you that due to (and now I&#039;m speaking for me) my past experiences; referring to you any other way (well to be honest I&#039;m not going to call you the &#039;black chick&#039; unless I know you well enough to say, nor am I about to refer to someone with large boobs or some other obvious physical characteristic as the &#039;boobed chick&#039; for instance but that&#039;s another post about manners that I&#039;m not quite done writing yet :) ) make me leary of some how offending you?  I&#039;ve had my head ripped off verbally for not acknowledging someone&#039;s color and ethnic descent and was accused of &#039;lumping all races into the generic term of nonwhites&#039;.   

If someone has a striking (gorgeous, beautiful, luscious) hair color and I refer to them as the woman with the awesome auburn hair, that&#039;s okay, I would assume you&#039;d agree?  But if I admire the color of my son in law&#039;s skin, which is a gorgeous blue/black with shades of warm and warmer browns; or the lovely shade of cafe au lait skin tones that my grand daughter has which to my mind is the most perfect blend of her parents&#039; skin color, I&#039;m a racist?

I really wish that society would pick one.   And send me a memo.
:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having never been referred to as &#8216;the black chick&#8217; I probably don&#8217;t have the right to speak, but&#8230; regardless, I do have an opinion.</p>
<p>Your assumption that someone (me for example) referring to you as such is a barrier, a creation of a divide that shall not be crossable isn&#8217;t totally on the money, at least when it comes to me.  Does it occur to you that due to (and now I&#8217;m speaking for me) my past experiences; referring to you any other way (well to be honest I&#8217;m not going to call you the &#8216;black chick&#8217; unless I know you well enough to say, nor am I about to refer to someone with large boobs or some other obvious physical characteristic as the &#8216;boobed chick&#8217; for instance but that&#8217;s another post about manners that I&#8217;m not quite done writing yet :) ) make me leary of some how offending you?  I&#8217;ve had my head ripped off verbally for not acknowledging someone&#8217;s color and ethnic descent and was accused of &#8216;lumping all races into the generic term of nonwhites&#8217;.   </p>
<p>If someone has a striking (gorgeous, beautiful, luscious) hair color and I refer to them as the woman with the awesome auburn hair, that&#8217;s okay, I would assume you&#8217;d agree?  But if I admire the color of my son in law&#8217;s skin, which is a gorgeous blue/black with shades of warm and warmer browns; or the lovely shade of cafe au lait skin tones that my grand daughter has which to my mind is the most perfect blend of her parents&#8217; skin color, I&#8217;m a racist?</p>
<p>I really wish that society would pick one.   And send me a memo.<br />
:(</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18408</link>
		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...blackening the eyes of the white culture.&quot;

An interesting choice of phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;blackening the eyes of the white culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>An interesting choice of phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18407</link>
		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you post some of those links here? I&#039;d appreciate it.

(The comment might go to moderation but I&#039;ll pull it out asap.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you post some of those links here? I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
<p>(The comment might go to moderation but I&#8217;ll pull it out asap.)</p>
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		<title>By: Aysia</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2009/08/03/fearless/comment-page-1/#comment-18405</link>
		<dc:creator>Aysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still, at 20, describe people by skin color.  To me, it&#039;s the most blazingly obvious way to describe a person.  I am white, 100%.  Now that I&#039;m older I&#039;ll say &quot;I hope this dosn&#039;t sound rude, but that little black boy....&quot; as I know people can get offended quite quickly by it.  I also have a tendency to say &quot;That larger kid..&quot; or &quot;that tall lanky kid...&quot;  

Maybe it&#039;s not right but it&#039;s how I roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still, at 20, describe people by skin color.  To me, it&#8217;s the most blazingly obvious way to describe a person.  I am white, 100%.  Now that I&#8217;m older I&#8217;ll say &#8220;I hope this dosn&#8217;t sound rude, but that little black boy&#8230;.&#8221; as I know people can get offended quite quickly by it.  I also have a tendency to say &#8220;That larger kid..&#8221; or &#8220;that tall lanky kid&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not right but it&#8217;s how I roll.</p>
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