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		<title>By: kathi</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15537</link>
		<dc:creator>kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved this, an amazing read.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this, an amazing read.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Pugs</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15536</link>
		<dc:creator>Pugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, call me strange but I got a warm feeling reading these comments; I found out I&#039;m not alone in my cynicism.  Except I think its more of being realistic than being cynical.  I&#039;ve moved past bitter too but I still miss the me that believed love/marriage lasted forever.  I know a loving and fulfilling marriage lasts for some people but that&#039;s a rarity and those couples are extremely lucky.  

In the meantime, just have lots of sex!  :)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cometogethergiftbaskets.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.ComeTogetherGiftBaskets.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, call me strange but I got a warm feeling reading these comments; I found out I&#8217;m not alone in my cynicism.  Except I think its more of being realistic than being cynical.  I&#8217;ve moved past bitter too but I still miss the me that believed love/marriage lasted forever.  I know a loving and fulfilling marriage lasts for some people but that&#8217;s a rarity and those couples are extremely lucky.  </p>
<p>In the meantime, just have lots of sex!  :)<br />
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		<title>By: edie</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15528</link>
		<dc:creator>edie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man, marriage and schedules are for suckers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, marriage and schedules are for suckers</p>
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		<title>By: THAT Guy</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15513</link>
		<dc:creator>THAT Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I join the ever-growing list of those that wish You The Happiest of Holidays...May you &amp; Yours Enjoy this Wonderful Season...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I join the ever-growing list of those that wish You The Happiest of Holidays&#8230;May you &amp; Yours Enjoy this Wonderful Season&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Imploding Bellybutton</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15512</link>
		<dc:creator>Imploding Bellybutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can tell based on your past posts, AAG, you are a splendid success as a mother and as a person - I have never read something of yours on any subject and seen failure.  

Also, I am rather ashamed of myself that I posted that huge long rant and never said happy holidays, (or happy vacation, as the case may be) so:

Happy Holidays!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell based on your past posts, AAG, you are a splendid success as a mother and as a person &#8211; I have never read something of yours on any subject and seen failure.  </p>
<p>Also, I am rather ashamed of myself that I posted that huge long rant and never said happy holidays, (or happy vacation, as the case may be) so:</p>
<p>Happy Holidays!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with the Prof - there is a fine line between cynicism and realism. Those who predict a negative outcome without experience are cynical. Those who predict one because of experience are wise. You can put that in your Christmas stocking. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the Prof &#8211; there is a fine line between cynicism and realism. Those who predict a negative outcome without experience are cynical. Those who predict one because of experience are wise. You can put that in your Christmas stocking. :)</p>
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		<title>By: nitebyrd</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15510</link>
		<dc:creator>nitebyrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not as cynical as realistic?  Marriage is overrated anyway.

Have a lovely, warm Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not as cynical as realistic?  Marriage is overrated anyway.</p>
<p>Have a lovely, warm Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15509</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAG, I think being cynical shows movement from bitter.  I have made the same progression.  I&#039;ve stopped trying to talk people out of marrying.  I do, however, always recommend a prenup.  Ha.

I&#039;m also loathe these days to put all my eggs in one basket.  It&#039;s a failing, I think, but I&#039;m doing my best, as are you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAG, I think being cynical shows movement from bitter.  I have made the same progression.  I&#8217;ve stopped trying to talk people out of marrying.  I do, however, always recommend a prenup.  Ha.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also loathe these days to put all my eggs in one basket.  It&#8217;s a failing, I think, but I&#8217;m doing my best, as are you.</p>
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		<title>By: Imploding Bellybutton</title>
		<link>http://aagblog.com/2008/12/24/cynical/comment-page-1/#comment-15508</link>
		<dc:creator>Imploding Bellybutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who was recently engaged, and planning a wedding, I hope I can offer another view on this. This post really touched a personal chord with me.

Let me start by acknowledging that most couples don&#039;t make it. Many people get divorced, many people don&#039;t have the skills needed to make a marriage work, and many people simple have the wrong idea of what marriage is.

But no relationship can flourish in a poisonous environment, and that is what is being created here and almost everywhere. How can you expect a young couple to succeed in marriage when they are told that there&#039;s no way they will be able to handle the challenges that lie ahead? How can a couple make their marriage last when everyone makes it very clear they expect the marriage to end in divorce? Marriages, particularly young marriage, need the support, advice, and occasional kind words of others who are more experienced. But that&#039;s not what&#039;s happening. Instead of support, there&#039;s cynicism. Instead of advice, there&#039;s &#039;I told you so&#039;. And instead of kind words, there&#039;s only one word: divorce.

I feel very strongly on this point because this isn&#039;t the first place I&#039;ve seen these ideas. My relationship and my upcoming marriage have been judged, over and over again, just like you judged that couple&#039;s relationship on the beach. And the final verdict is ALWAYS the same: divorce! That verdict usually isn&#039;t based on intimate knowledge of the two people involved, it&#039;s simply a knee-jerk reaction to marriage itself.

I want to point out, in the most respectful way possible, that you have no right to judge those two people. As someone who has been judged at every turn since announcing my engagement, always negatively, I feel that I have to speak out in defense of everyone who is going into a marriage with the hope that it really will be a lifelong commitment. Many of us can&#039;t or won&#039;t make it work - but some of us will. 

I apologize if I am too harsh or too passionate - my intention is not at all to offend, but to beg for mercy from you and from every person that has told me my marriage has no chance of success: Please, whatever you privately think about marriage, let us make our own future. Offer us advice about pitfalls you have encountered, give us suggestions on how to build a strong marriage, use your own experiences, good and bad, to guide us. If in the end you have absolutely nothing hopeful to offer, then nothing at all is preferable to hopelessness. 

I know that of course this post wasn&#039;t aimed at me personally, and I took it rather personally, and I know I may come off as naive or unexperienced or hopelessly deluded, but I hope you&#039;ll forgive me for using this opportunity to get some things off my chest. :)

&lt;b&gt;Of course I&#039;m not offended by your post.  I hope you and that couple on the beach have long, happy relationships.  

Quite possibly it&#039;s easier for me to say &quot;The institution of marriage failed&quot; rather than &quot;I failed.&quot;  

:)

--aag
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who was recently engaged, and planning a wedding, I hope I can offer another view on this. This post really touched a personal chord with me.</p>
<p>Let me start by acknowledging that most couples don&#8217;t make it. Many people get divorced, many people don&#8217;t have the skills needed to make a marriage work, and many people simple have the wrong idea of what marriage is.</p>
<p>But no relationship can flourish in a poisonous environment, and that is what is being created here and almost everywhere. How can you expect a young couple to succeed in marriage when they are told that there&#8217;s no way they will be able to handle the challenges that lie ahead? How can a couple make their marriage last when everyone makes it very clear they expect the marriage to end in divorce? Marriages, particularly young marriage, need the support, advice, and occasional kind words of others who are more experienced. But that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s happening. Instead of support, there&#8217;s cynicism. Instead of advice, there&#8217;s &#8216;I told you so&#8217;. And instead of kind words, there&#8217;s only one word: divorce.</p>
<p>I feel very strongly on this point because this isn&#8217;t the first place I&#8217;ve seen these ideas. My relationship and my upcoming marriage have been judged, over and over again, just like you judged that couple&#8217;s relationship on the beach. And the final verdict is ALWAYS the same: divorce! That verdict usually isn&#8217;t based on intimate knowledge of the two people involved, it&#8217;s simply a knee-jerk reaction to marriage itself.</p>
<p>I want to point out, in the most respectful way possible, that you have no right to judge those two people. As someone who has been judged at every turn since announcing my engagement, always negatively, I feel that I have to speak out in defense of everyone who is going into a marriage with the hope that it really will be a lifelong commitment. Many of us can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t make it work &#8211; but some of us will. </p>
<p>I apologize if I am too harsh or too passionate &#8211; my intention is not at all to offend, but to beg for mercy from you and from every person that has told me my marriage has no chance of success: Please, whatever you privately think about marriage, let us make our own future. Offer us advice about pitfalls you have encountered, give us suggestions on how to build a strong marriage, use your own experiences, good and bad, to guide us. If in the end you have absolutely nothing hopeful to offer, then nothing at all is preferable to hopelessness. </p>
<p>I know that of course this post wasn&#8217;t aimed at me personally, and I took it rather personally, and I know I may come off as naive or unexperienced or hopelessly deluded, but I hope you&#8217;ll forgive me for using this opportunity to get some things off my chest. :)</p>
<p><b>Of course I&#8217;m not offended by your post.  I hope you and that couple on the beach have long, happy relationships.  </p>
<p>Quite possibly it&#8217;s easier for me to say &#8220;The institution of marriage failed&#8221; rather than &#8220;I failed.&#8221;  </p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>&#8211;aag<br />
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		<title>By: J. Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was that you were seriously cynical, then I realized, I didn&#039;t even make it to marriage before the hurt and anger and disappointment and betrayal of our &quot;forever&quot; love ended it for us.  *I* was half of that couple you saw, and I can confirm the cyclical truth.

*Sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was that you were seriously cynical, then I realized, I didn&#8217;t even make it to marriage before the hurt and anger and disappointment and betrayal of our &#8220;forever&#8221; love ended it for us.  *I* was half of that couple you saw, and I can confirm the cyclical truth.</p>
<p>*Sigh*</p>
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