11th Feb, 2008

Use Some Sense

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Ignoring my better judgment, I spoke again to Mr. Smooth Vagina.

Cut him some slack, I told myself. After a long dull marriage, he’s in the first heady rush of sexual exploration. He just needs to find his sea legs. He’ll be fine.

With those hopeful thoughts in mind, I eventually scheduled a coffee date with Mr. SV for a week in the future. In the meantime, we continued to make each other’s acquaintance over the phone and on instant messenger.

One evening he related a tale about a woman who’d recently contacted him through the very same pervy dating site where we’d met. She was gorgeous, he gushed; she was intelligent and sexual and had a fantasy that she wanted some help in fulfilling. He proceeded to tell me the fantasy. I will allow that her fantasy was hot. Quite.

Mr. SV seemed anxious to convince me that this new woman was real and not one of the “fake” women our site is occasionally rumored to deploy as bait for its more gullible members. He showed me her profile. He showed me semi-naked pictures she’d sent him. I ooohed and aaahed at appropriate moments, all the while vaguely questioning his judgment in sharing such seemingly privileged information with a woman he barely knew.

One final picture popped up on my screen. Blurry at first, it quickly resolved into a page of text followed by a head shot and some smaller script. “What’s this?” I asked Mr. SV.

Before he could answer, I had a chance to scan the image. It was a biography. It was a professional biography, a screen-shot taken from the web page of a large local company. Aghast, I recognized the woman from the semi-naked pictures he’d just showed me. Next to her businesslike face was listed her company title and contact information.

Stunned, I questioned Mr. SV. Oh yes, he breezily assured me, she’d shared her full name and work information with him on the first night they’d spoken online. See, he told me. She’s totally real. Isn’t she grand?

The sudden call of work was a convenient excuse for ending our conversation.

If I were an evil person (er, a more evil person?) I could have composed quite an interesting email to the woman. I could have included a detailed rendition of her fantasy, along with her semi-naked pictures and dating site handle. I could have addressed her by title and full name. I could have sent it to her work address.

At the end of the email I could have written something along the lines of, “Woman, use some sense!” But I didn’t.

I briefly contemplated excusing myself from the coffee date with Mr. SV on the grounds of babysitter troubles, but ultimately I decided against it. I explained in an email that I was uncomfortable with the amount of information he’d shared with me about his other potential date; I said that I didn’t want to find myself on the receiving end of that kind of poor judgment some day.

He never wrote back.

In the past I would have had coffee with him. I would have prepared a short lecture on privacy, respect and online common sense to deliver at some appropriate point in the evening . I would have hoped that he would learn to straighten up and fly right.

This time I didn’t bother. It’s not my responsibility. And it felt awfully good not to bother.

Responses

Wait, so you know what company I work for AND my fantasy?

Wait… my vagina isn’t smooth. I think I’m in the clear on this. My fantasy IS hot though…

well, no one said you had to be the moron police force.
But… an anonymous email to a certain woman explaining the stupidity of telling ‘too much’ would certainly raise some ‘oh noes’ from her, and as you said… hopefully a bit of sense.

I would love to be a fly on her wall if she ever got such an email. I bet it would be priceless.

PB

Moron police indeed. I’m not sure which one of them is worse - though she, at least, will hopefully discover the error of her ways BEFORE someone tries to blackmail her!

Still no smooth vagina here, at least not when I’m at all hot and bothered.

there’s this old saw about marriage where they tell you to pick your battles. i use that as a life metaphor.

good choice not wasting a second on him. i’d email her at home though… everyone needs at least one warning about what their stupidity is bringing on their heads.

Personally, I’d stay way out of the entire thing, just like you did. There’s a million potential scenarios here of what could be going on–including that this “woman” may just be a person pretending to be her, deliberately giving out her address because he/she wants to embarrass or harass her in a passive aggressive way.

As for Mr. SV, well…the minute another online person starts sharing great gobs of personal detail about another online person without their express permission, I cut that person out of the communication loop. It’s a bad, bad sign. If he’ll do it to someone else, he’ll absolutely have no qualms about doing it to you. Like you said, it’s not our job to lecture them on their behavior; that can only cause more problems. It’s just better to get away from it politely and quickly.

Hi AAG,

Co-dependent no more!

Well, a little less…

GREAT job!!!

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

Chuck

I’ve been on both sides of this. I’ve given too much away about myself, and others, in that past, and have encountered people who’ve been even more cavalier about their own personal details. I think that most people don’t realise how easy it is to find them - an inadvertant slip, say letting someone glimpse your real name, and in ten minutes of searching they can find out all sorts of details.

Unfortunately, once pandora’s box is opened, it’s almost impossible to close again. And even if you think you’re sharing with friends, I’ve learnt it pays to be careful. You never know when things might go sour, and all the stuff you shared becomes a liability.

No answers, then. Other then to trust your instincts - which you did.

Mistake number one: you cut him some slack. AAG didn’t you just write a few weeks ago about being screwed over with a guy who didn’t use condoms? This guy showed all of the early warning signs of being a total idiot. You even told the whole world about them, yet you made a coffee date with him? If you had a phallus, I would understand you were letting it do the thinking. Listen to your brain and let the brain filter out the losers.

::applause:: That sort of thing sure is liberating!

This women isn’t inadvertently giving away enough that someone MIGHT be able to find her, she was giving him her freakin’ home address and telephone number. I’m wondering is Mr. SV so good that this totally hot totally attractive woman was so desperate to prove she’s not “fake”? And what must this woman think of herself that she thinks she may be mistaken for a woman too good to be true? I tell ya some people blow me away.

Congrats on the good decision making. I’ll letcha know when I finally make a good one too. lol

Good job at not trying to fix him, and as for her, if it were me I might make the mistake of telling her he is telling too much, but you really just don’t know what kind of unpleasantness that might lead to with him, or her… So I would say hear these words of wisdom and let it be (LOL).

As for the smooth vag, I looked up the technical language.. the ripples are called Rugae, and of course the book stated they are normal and expected.

E

Bravo for walking away.

I felt chilled KNOWING my personal details have been abused in this way. My photos and personal details were paraded as some sort of sick form of titillation. It is hard to forgive, or trust ever again.

I think you have been living in a Seinfeld episode; the one called The Comeback. In it Elaine has a phone affair with Vincent, the video store employee. During the affair, he pulls a Van Gough-like move and sends her a button from his VCR. When she finally meets him, he turns out he is a teenage kid.

I think this kid stole his mom’s picks from Redclouds.com, created a pervy profile, and is reeling in what he can with it. Thank God you didn’t agree to coffee. If you get the remote control of his mom’s vibrator in the mail, you’ll I was right.

Haaaaaaa

So turns out he is a bizarre man…I do believe the “smooth vagina” was a giveaway, but I also understand giving people that appear to be freaks a second chance, and sometimes the second chance serves to confirm.

Wow that was quite a runon sentence.

Good decision, aag. I was starting to think only the men on the dating sites were idiots.

This is simply more ammunition for my new campaign advocating mandatory sterilization for indviduals with IQs under 100.

Best to keep clear of this pair.

Desperation people, thats what it’s called….

First it’s the Condom police…now the Moron police. AAG, I think you might have a calling in law enforcement…

Tee hee hee.

I worry because I have pics on an, as you call it, a pervy dating site. Anyone who can see those pics can capture them for their own library. Not that I’m all that, but I am all that naked in some of them.

I guess one has to cultivate a “what the hell” attitude. If I’m going to fuck relative strangers in semi-public, then I guess I can’t be too precious about my pictures being out there. Mostly there are no faces attached. I guess I think, well, hope that protects my identity at least a bit.

Perhaps just a tiny little note, with no hint of where it came from, to let her know that her private info isn’t as private as she thinks it is? NOPE. That breaks all the rules of pervy dating sites everywhere…it’s everyone for themselves, or so I’m told. That seems to be how the folks on them like it.

N.

Gotta love technology. It’s not evil…it’s the people using it that can be evil…or stupid. I share different things in different places. Sometimes I worry if too much. But there are no nude pics of me anywhere.

Well, I’d have to agree )ith Indifernet again about this dude being a bitt of a buttmungler. that girl might be being a little dumb too though so who knows? who ever knows what fools will do next? which is why I agree with Finn on idiots around the world. And there really do seem to be a very alarming number of these, don’t you think? Also, although there are a number of pics of me on the interwebs, I am wearing plenty in all of them.

See, and you were so kind as to not allow us to set up a group chat to rake him over the coals. You shoulda let me do it.

D

Brainiac you are right… I am pure evil

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I’m still trying to get my head round the whole smooth vagina thing (Smooth, sleek, Tunnel of Lurve or Ridged for His Pleasure, or simply Ergonomically Shaped?), but what really comes across is that a) he can’t believe his luck in finding women that respond to him, and she is just dangerously naive. They both, separately and together, sound like a recipe for disaster.

Oops, there should have been a b) in there, somewhere, too. This is what happens when you comment on insufficient caffeine.

I just felt that whole sour feeling in the pit of your stomach fear thing for that poor woman. You cant even call him a cad cos he clearly had no idea of how badly he was behaving. People look askance at others who create an entirely false identity and live a lie but you cant help feeling that therein lies the only safety in the world of internet relationships

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