2nd Jul, 2007

Having Great Experiences on Dating Sites

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Where do you find the men you eventually meet?

In the course of writing this site, I’ve been asked the above question or a variation thereof approximately seven thousand times. In fact I was just asked it again a few days ago by an anonymous correspondent. So as your humble servant, I now set out to answer this question definitively.

Are you ready for my answer? Here it is: I cannot tell you.

I cannot tell you for two reasons. First, I will not name the online dating sites I frequent because I don’t want people hunting down my profiles. I know it’s a remote possibility that someone would be interested enough to do such a thing, but stranger things have happened in the online world and I’d prefer not to take the chance.

Secondly, your experience may vary considerably from mine. What I consider to be a wonderful dynamic of a certain site might be a complete turn-off to you. Also, what works well in my particular area of the country may not work at all in yours. I don’t want annoyed emails from folks who sign up for the site and then don’t have similar experiences.

Having said that, I will tell you some things I’ve done to make the most of my current favorite site. Read more after the cut…

My greatest successes and failures in online dating have all been through this single very popular dating site. I’ve met some wonderful men and a few completely monstrous men from there.

My failures on the site came during a time when I was attempting to date in a low-key manner. My profile was skimpy. I did not take enough time to learn about the men I met before getting physical. I did not post pictures. But most of all, I approached dating from a low self-esteem position.

Eventually I got my head screwed on straight (I think), killed that old profile and started afresh. I took the time to write (and frequently update) a profile that very clearly states who I am and what I want–with no apologies.

The fact of the matter is that a person such as myself (a little older, not thin, fairly smart, very opinionated, extremely demanding in bed) is not attractive to a certain percentage of eligible men. I’m fine with that. I don’t need to be appealing to every man–and every man certainly is not appealing to me. Once I got that simple fact through my head, I could approach dating with a much better attitude.

I would urge you to be extremely specific with your profile. My profile lists a number of criteria that are non-negotiable with me: a potential lover must be local to me, for example; he should be interested in more that a one-night stand; he cannot be having a “discreet” relationship. There are more, but you get the idea.

I’m continually surprised by how many emails I get from men on the site who completely do not match my criteria. Weekly (at least) I hear from someone who lives a thousand miles away and is passing through my town on business–without his wife. Since I’ve been so abundantly clear in my profile, however, I feel no chagrin at deleting such messages without a response.

Unless I’m feeling cranky. Then I might write back as follows: “Dude. Did you read my profile?”

I would also encourage you to post pictures–several, if possible–which show your body (and your face, if you feel comfortable with that) as it truly is. The last thing you want is to meet up with someone who is not attracted to your particular body type, or who has the wrong idea about what sort of body you have. No matter what kind of body you are wearing, I can tell you with complete confidence that many, many people find it attractive.

I’ve only recently figured this out, and I’ll never again be with someone who only tolerates women who are not thin. I’ll now only be with men who adore women who are not thin.

Early on in my time on this site, someone told me that the most real and sincere people could be found in the site’s local interest boards. If you can manage it, find a site that maintains active local boards.

Luckily, my area is replete with people active on these boards. I joined a handful of the boards; I post on them frequently. This gives folks a chance to get to know me, and (more importantly) gives me a chance to know them. If someone sounds great in their profile, I check to see what kinds of posts they’ve made. This can be quite instructive.

Another benefit of the local interest boards on my site is that the members frequently hold gatherings. Some of these are of a very sexual nature while others are 100% mild. I know of gatherings held in public parks, swimming pools, hotels, private homes, restaurants and bars. Some are so family friendly that children are invited. At others, children, the elderly, and anyone without a strong constitution should be removed to at least a five mile radius.

If you’ve been posting on the boards and getting to know people that way, it’s not too difficult to make the transition to meeting the group in a restaurant or at a local sporting event. You’ll have the benefit of being able to check out many members of the opposite sex at once, and also meet your competition (if you want to think of it that way).

I prefer to think of the other women on the site as potential three-some members.

One final word about these sites and dating in general. The one thing that is common in any site or situation you use to find dates is you. Your own attitude is the largest contributing factor to how good or bad your experience turns out to be.

And that, perhaps, is a topic for another post.

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Regardless of how you find someone online, you absolutely must follow some safety precautions. No matter how wonderful someone sounds in email, IM or on the phone, you will not get a read on his true character until you meet in person.

If you cannot meet your prospective friend at a group-sponsored social event, then tell a trusted friend where you are going and with whom. Plan the meeting during daylight hours, in a public place, and for a very short amount of time.

You can believe me when I tell you that sometimes, two minutes is all it takes to ascertain that he’s not the right one for you–and for him to know the same about you.

These tips certainly are not original, but they bear repeating.

Responses

You’ve presented the details so well. And some new aspects I hadn’t thought about. For meetings, I now employ the 6:00 rule — meet for coffee, or lunch, on a weekday BEFORE 6:00. Prevents a number of problems.

Yeah, I actually liked the later-evening meetings. Too late to eat, too late to go out anywhere else…I never had a problem saying NO if he thought it would be a good idea to go straight from the meeting to his house. :)

great advice.

i had to re-do my profile after the slew of messages that were not at all what i wanted.

for me i had to be blunt, short and precise because you can write a novel on those sites and guys still don’t read. but, then they are not worthy for your attention either.

i am glad you find worthy men. you deserve it.

I’ve had some luck on these sites as well — being specific and picky helps a lot. One thing that helps in attracting people is to frame your profile in a positive manner — i.e., ‘I am only interested in dating local men’ is a better way of saying ‘No men who aren’t from my area.’ A profile with a bunch of NOs on it ‘NO married men. NO non-local guys. NO NO NO’ is a big turnoff — they seem bitter vs. simply knowing what they want, which is sexy.

If you’re approaching someone based on their profile, the best way to do it, in my experience, is to have a good profile yourself and in your first message say something that makes it clear you have read their profile — such as a book or other like you have. Start simple, and go from there — at worst you’ll have a chat about a book you like with someone else who does too.

I will also agree that mileage can vary greatly. I’ve had a lot of luck on OKCupid but a number of my friends complain about the awful luck they’ve had there.

Oooo I liked OKCupid too…can’t go wrong with 100% free, right?

:)

Wow, I just surfed the blogs, commented and eventually the perfect woman just found me! Imagine that.

y’all stay safe now, y’hear?

Him

Great advice about dating sites.

It’s important when meeting new people to have your own set of ’staying safe’ requirements. I’ve met lots of people in person from the internet, (not for dating) and I always use a checklist of requirements. The first and foremost is that we meet in public, and that I am usually accompanied by a friend.

My problem with online dating is … well … the bane of my existence: smart chicks who are fucking insane.

“Insane” doesn’t really flow to you through text from a smart chick. You don’t realize it until you’re face to face with it :-(

Thanks for writing this. As an older not really thin woman who’s been married forever and now is venturing out in the world, I was unsure of dating sites. Your information gives me a great starting point.

Gadfly,

I’m a smart chick…

:)

I’ve heard a lot of horror stories from women out there. I’m so glad you shared some safety tips with others.

Love ya babe!

Her

Oh crap, I forgot to mention that I am on this site as a free member. No cash.

Easier for women to do this than men, I think.

Good Monday morning AAG,
I’d agree with you that the more specific you are, the better. I find about 1 in 500 men will actually be compatible with what I find non-negotiable. So if you have the patience, and are willing to weed through the ones that are only looking at pictures or completely inappropriate, it is worth a try.
And being careful is extremely important. Don’t use your regular phone. Buy a throw away that can’t be traced to you, and never let them know your last name or address until you’ve met them in person a few times and truly feel comfortable.

Your advice is excellent. I admit that I’m not always great about the public meeting, but I have been getting better.

I am in a similar boat of being not thin and smart and opinionated. In my 20s, I met a lot of guys who weren’t into my body, or would say, well I do like you, but would like you better .. yadda yadda. Whereas now, men just find me more attractive the way I am. I posted pictures of my (clothed) ass and chest, and get nothing but compliments. I think that it’s all about being honest about it, and opening yourself up to say, yeah I’m not for everyone, but to those who like a woman like me, here I am.

If people are still watching this thread, I am curious why some people act like it’s more dangerous to meet someone online rather than off? Taking precautions like public meetings, not giving too much personal info, etc are very sensible, but it seems like some people take EXTRA precautions when meeting someone online that they wouldn’t if they’d met the person in some other way (i.e. at a public function and they asked you on a date). Why is this?

Just curious, thanks.

great details in this post….sometimes people do not do enough of the research on a site to help it make them work….then, there are others that jump in with both feet and hope something will work.

There’s no way to get that initial “gut” reaction online. You get that when you meet in person–that probably makes some people less worried about setting up a date someone they’ve met before.

FWIW: I always get suspicious if he doesn’t mention *any* friends, where he works, who he hangs out with. Heck, is he nice to him mother? Maybe more to the point, is he nice to the waiter? Time was, I wanted: Handsome, sexy, rich, funny and kind.
Now that I’m older, kind tops the list…

Good point, Darth. Rude to the waitstaff is definitely a dealbreaker.

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